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2 years 8 months ago #1333 by Andrew Blyth
Replied by Andrew Blyth on topic Guldenstadt's Redstart (Phoenicurus erythrogastrus)
Do you think that the reason for the species not doing well in aviculture is connected to them having evolved to live at high altitude with a rarified atmosphere?
I recall seeing a few pairs many years ago looking really good at the importers.
At the same time there were some stunning Grandalas - another high altitude bird. I was later told the they had all succumbed after several months having appeared to be doing very well to respiratory complaints.
Good luck with your Guldenstadts both of you.

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2 years 8 months ago #1334 by James McKay
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Hi. Andrew, that's fair comment, but I do not know if there is anything off hand that could be given to help acclimatise them, but it would certainally be worth looking into. James.

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2 years 8 months ago - 2 years 8 months ago #1335 by Peter Moore
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i believe that the altitude does make a difference,
The Dutch find it hard trying to keep Ring ouzels going they can get them breeding but when it gets hot they loose them.
I have had Grandalas on several occasions in the past which are a migratory species the longest i managed to keep one alive was 2 years looking perfect then suddenly die.
Another is the Mountain bluebird (Sialia currucoides) they do not survive long in captivity.
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Unfortunately without accurate autopsy reports we can never prove anything,
And nobody likes to admit to loosing a bird and so a true picture cannot be learned.

I think the only way forward is to breed from imports that have managed to survive.
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2 years 8 months ago #1336 by Roy Baguley
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Hi Pete just noticed that Pieter Huysmans has a Pr for sale close rung 2018 birds.

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2 years 8 months ago #1339 by Peter Moore
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Yes Roy,
i called him that same morning but he wasnt available and was told that there was only 1 male so i can only presume the female died,
Many of the birds advertised as captive bred and closed rung are not they have oversized rings on them.

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2 years 7 months ago #1364 by Peter Moore
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Unfortunately both my birds when into a moult but the good thing and more importantly is that they are in sync (same stage together). fingers crossed there might still be as chance to breed them this year.

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