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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #875
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Today i went to a meeting with cites to look at what will happen after we leave europe the results are a bit disturbing.
It is likely cites species of type 1 and 2 will need a permit to be exported or imported to the uk these cost £63 each and to get one you will have to prove the bird is captive bred. Cites annex 2 covers everything from owls to ibis to laughing thrushes, flamingos, parakeets, pekin robins, touracos, parrots some pheasants and waterfowl there is 100s of species that will have their entry in and out of the uk restricted. It is likely to have a greater impact on uk bird keeping than the ban on the import of wild birds.
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It is likely cites species of type 1 and 2 will need a permit to be exported or imported to the uk these cost £63 each and to get one you will have to prove the bird is captive bred. Cites annex 2 covers everything from owls to ibis to laughing thrushes, flamingos, parakeets, pekin robins, touracos, parrots some pheasants and waterfowl there is 100s of species that will have their entry in and out of the uk restricted. It is likely to have a greater impact on uk bird keeping than the ban on the import of wild birds.
Daniel Cullen.
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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #876
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with the prossible introduction of breeder licences for birdkeepers/breeders it sound as if things are going to be very expensive
www.cageandaviarybirds.co.uk/news/defra-...licensing-bombshell/
www.cageandaviarybirds.co.uk/news/defra-...licensing-bombshell/
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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #880
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Bird keepers have a bad record for sitting back and doing nothing but im afraid if we dont band together and inudate defra and MPs with complaints and unfairness our hobby will be severely hit making it impossible for Softbill keepers/breeders to carry on.with this group of birds,
Softbills are such a varied group with many having there own special requirements that even we struggle at times to work out there needs, bird-keeping is a learning process that can only be learned by on hand experience not from a book or the internet as even birds of the same species can require different management.
So how are people with no experience in even basic bird keeping and most likely only what they have learned from off the internet which is not all always correct,
A blanket over everything cannot work every living thing be it a Bird, Insect, Animal, Fish yes even plants/trees all have there own special needs.
This is all about the anti brigade and money making. how can some-one come visit you without any1st hand knowledge in keeping that species and will have to look it up on the internet before the visit then tell you how you should keep it.
As everyone can see this has been kept all hush hush without making it general knowledge and allowing time for people to respond.
it is a complete white wash.
This should have been published in the national Cage & Aviary Birds with at least 1 years notice, and what about all those that do not use the internet.or take Cage & Aviary Birds how and when will they learn of this !
Softbills are such a varied group with many having there own special requirements that even we struggle at times to work out there needs, bird-keeping is a learning process that can only be learned by on hand experience not from a book or the internet as even birds of the same species can require different management.
So how are people with no experience in even basic bird keeping and most likely only what they have learned from off the internet which is not all always correct,
A blanket over everything cannot work every living thing be it a Bird, Insect, Animal, Fish yes even plants/trees all have there own special needs.
This is all about the anti brigade and money making. how can some-one come visit you without any1st hand knowledge in keeping that species and will have to look it up on the internet before the visit then tell you how you should keep it.
As everyone can see this has been kept all hush hush without making it general knowledge and allowing time for people to respond.
it is a complete white wash.
This should have been published in the national Cage & Aviary Birds with at least 1 years notice, and what about all those that do not use the internet.or take Cage & Aviary Birds how and when will they learn of this !
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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #883
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Cage & Aviary Birds
March 24 at 7:22pm
TO ALL BIRD BREEDERS IN THE UK
Details are just emerging of DEFRA’s shock new plan to introduce mandatory licensing for the sale of birds in October this year.
AS IT STANDS, IT COULD AFFECT COUNTLESS HOBBYIST BIRD BREEDERS.
The Animal Activities Licence has been under discussion for two years by DEFRA and various stakeholders. It was originally supposed to introduce proper licensing for businesses such as petshops and dog breeders.
Now DEFRA suddenly want to extend licensing to ALL “commercial” sales of livestock. That could mean local authority inspectors deciding that when YOU sell birds, it’s a “commercial” activity. You’d have to pay for a fixed-term licence, and agree to local authority inspections, along with potentially loads more red tape.
TOGETHER WE MUST TRY TO STOP THIS. “Cage & Aviary Birds” is asking all birdkeepers (not only “C&AB” readers) to write to their MP to stop this lousy new legislation just being waved through Parliament. PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE LETTER FROM THE “C&AB” WEBSITE NOW. Adapt it, edit it, add to it however you like – but please SIGN IT AND SEND IT TO YOUR MP. Get all your birdkeeping friends to do it too.
The NCA and Parrot Society have already written formal letters of protest to DEFRA boss Michael Gove. But we need rank-and-file MPs of all parties to voice their concern to DEFRA.
To download the letter to send to your MP, and to read a DEFRA background document, see the news story dated March 19, 2018 at: www.cageandaviarybirds.co.uk/…/defra-drops-licensi…/
NOTE: the background document doesn’t mention birds but plainly they will come under the licensing proposals unless DEFRA changes its approach
March 24 at 7:22pm
TO ALL BIRD BREEDERS IN THE UK
Details are just emerging of DEFRA’s shock new plan to introduce mandatory licensing for the sale of birds in October this year.
AS IT STANDS, IT COULD AFFECT COUNTLESS HOBBYIST BIRD BREEDERS.
The Animal Activities Licence has been under discussion for two years by DEFRA and various stakeholders. It was originally supposed to introduce proper licensing for businesses such as petshops and dog breeders.
Now DEFRA suddenly want to extend licensing to ALL “commercial” sales of livestock. That could mean local authority inspectors deciding that when YOU sell birds, it’s a “commercial” activity. You’d have to pay for a fixed-term licence, and agree to local authority inspections, along with potentially loads more red tape.
TOGETHER WE MUST TRY TO STOP THIS. “Cage & Aviary Birds” is asking all birdkeepers (not only “C&AB” readers) to write to their MP to stop this lousy new legislation just being waved through Parliament. PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE LETTER FROM THE “C&AB” WEBSITE NOW. Adapt it, edit it, add to it however you like – but please SIGN IT AND SEND IT TO YOUR MP. Get all your birdkeeping friends to do it too.
The NCA and Parrot Society have already written formal letters of protest to DEFRA boss Michael Gove. But we need rank-and-file MPs of all parties to voice their concern to DEFRA.
To download the letter to send to your MP, and to read a DEFRA background document, see the news story dated March 19, 2018 at: www.cageandaviarybirds.co.uk/…/defra-drops-licensi…/
NOTE: the background document doesn’t mention birds but plainly they will come under the licensing proposals unless DEFRA changes its approach
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